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we know tamerlan's father lives here. tamerlan came back to see him at some point during last year and during the same time this man was in the jihadi underworld. he's to be asked about that certainly. we know u.s. intelligence even looking in social media to establish any lynx to extremists here in the north caucases and this is clearly one at this particular point. wolf? >> nick, we've heard from a chechen rebel group in the area where you are about the bombing suspect. what do they say? >> reporter: well, this is called caucasus. they vacillate between moderate and extremism. they say they are not part of the bombing at all, this is all part of some broader conspiracy to pin blame on them, on separatists and radicals here. and actually that the russian government may be behind trying to pin that on them. this is sort of a bid by them to get distance from this, not gain any kind of u.s. reprisal at all. this particular group, i think an internet kind of figure head in many ways over the past decade for much of the terro
we know tamerlan's father lives here. tamerlan came back to see him at some point during last year and during the same time this man was in the jihadi underworld. he's to be asked about that certainly. we know u.s. intelligence even looking in social media to establish any lynx to extremists here in the north caucases and this is clearly one at this particular point. wolf? >> nick, we've heard from a chechen rebel group in the area where you are about the bombing suspect. what do they...
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that's where tamerlan's father currently lived and where tamerlan spent at least six months in 2012. cnn cannot confirm that tamerlan and abu dijana met, but we know the video that was originally posted on his youtube site was deleted from his youtube account, but still, we have managed to track it down here at cnn. here's the latest information on his younger brother, the surviving boston bombing suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, the 19-year-old. he remains hospitalized in what doctors say is serious but stable condition. and a federal official tells us he has injuries to his throat. he's intubated and is sedated. he can't speak, obviously, despite his condition, tsarnaev could be formally charged as early as today. we're standing by for an announcement by the justice department. a law enforcement source saying ajudge or magistrate will likely come to the hospital, could come to the hospital, bedside, to formally present the charges to the 19-year-old suspect. a justice department official says the suspect will likely face federal terrorism charges, possibly state murder charges as well.
that's where tamerlan's father currently lived and where tamerlan spent at least six months in 2012. cnn cannot confirm that tamerlan and abu dijana met, but we know the video that was originally posted on his youtube site was deleted from his youtube account, but still, we have managed to track it down here at cnn. here's the latest information on his younger brother, the surviving boston bombing suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, the 19-year-old. he remains hospitalized in what doctors say is...
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in recent months to delay action on an application for citizenship from the other suspected bomber, tamerlan tsarnaev. a routine background check revealed he was interviewed by the fbi in 2011 at the request of the russian government, which suspected that the older brother had ties to chechen terrorism. he was killed following a shootout with police early friday morning in boston. cnn's latest reporting shows 57 victims remain hospitalized as a result of the boston bombings including three in critical condition. joining me now is massachusetts senator, william his friends call him mo cowan. thank you, senator, for being with us out of boston. i want to is you what you know about the status of the investigation. has anything new turned up? >> well, good morning, candy. thanks for having me here. and before i respond i want to take this opportunity to once again thank all the first responders who came to the scene on monday and all the investigative personnel who spent all week working hard to identify and capture the suspects we believe to be responsible for this heinous crime committed on ma
in recent months to delay action on an application for citizenship from the other suspected bomber, tamerlan tsarnaev. a routine background check revealed he was interviewed by the fbi in 2011 at the request of the russian government, which suspected that the older brother had ties to chechen terrorism. he was killed following a shootout with police early friday morning in boston. cnn's latest reporting shows 57 victims remain hospitalized as a result of the boston bombings including three in...
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cnn cannot confirm that tamerlan and abu dujana actually met in pakistan. the video had been deleted from tamerlan's youtube account but was tracked down by cnn. here's the latest information on tamerlan's brother, the surviving 19-year-old suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev. he's hospitalized. he's described as being in serious but stable condition. a federal official tells cnn he has injuries to his throat and is intubated and sedated. despite his condition, tsarnaev could be formally charged as early as today. a law enforcement source says a judge or magistrate would likely come to the hospital at the beth israel deaconess medical center, go to his bedside to present those charges. they're expected to include federal terrorism charges and possibly state murder charges at the same time. could be arraigned later. that's all a formal process. we also have new information coming in about tsarnaev's friday night capture. a law enforcement source tells cnn tsarnaev actually crawled out of the boat he was hiding in in the boston suburb of watertown. the source says he
cnn cannot confirm that tamerlan and abu dujana actually met in pakistan. the video had been deleted from tamerlan's youtube account but was tracked down by cnn. here's the latest information on tamerlan's brother, the surviving 19-year-old suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev. he's hospitalized. he's described as being in serious but stable condition. a federal official tells cnn he has injuries to his throat and is intubated and sedated. despite his condition, tsarnaev could be formally charged as...
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reporter: their uncle ruslan tsarni said he too saw changes in tamerlan. >> it was a different tamerlan. seeing no purpose in life but to pursue the path of god. okay. when i asked what is the path, he would say some kind of jihad. >> reporter: on his you-tube page last year, tamerlan endorsed several jihady videos. but what about dzhokhar, the younger brother? >> he's from chechnya. i said, whoa, so you were there during all the war the russia and all the bombing and all the terror. he said yeah but i don't remember it really. to tell you the truth i don't remember it. then he went on to say how grateful he was to be here and what a lucky and fortunate person he was. >> reporter: the uncle believes the younger brother was swayed by the older brother. >> the older brother involved him. dzhokhar would never ever have any idea. even by that age he wouldn't have that hatred intentionally to cause harm to innocent people. >> reporter: was he polite? very polite. very polite. >> reporter: on tuesday, a day after the marathon bombing, dzhokhar came to gilberto jr.'s auto body shop. what did h
reporter: their uncle ruslan tsarni said he too saw changes in tamerlan. >> it was a different tamerlan. seeing no purpose in life but to pursue the path of god. okay. when i asked what is the path, he would say some kind of jihad. >> reporter: on his you-tube page last year, tamerlan endorsed several jihady videos. but what about dzhokhar, the younger brother? >> he's from chechnya. i said, whoa, so you were there during all the war the russia and all the bombing and all the...
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so the older brother tamerlan was an american person in 2011. there are limits to what we do to american citizens in terms of tracking them, surveilling them, monitoring their thoughts and their expressions. that's a fact. that's a reality of being a united states person or citizen. so there is this aspect of home-grown terrorism that has to be confronted. how you try to protect the country against it. as well as the nature of this kind of attack. a small bore, a terror attack with far fewer victims than some of the other attacks we've seen. how as a country do we secure the homeland as a result of that? i think that's part of where the debate will go. >> the other part of the debate is immigration and that's come back up, in washington because of an immigration deal and also because of what happened this week in boston. >> no question. and let's remember our recent history. 9/11 occurs at a time when the bush administration was pursuing comprehensive immigration reform. that was completely displaced by the 9/11 attacks and all the fear about pe
so the older brother tamerlan was an american person in 2011. there are limits to what we do to american citizens in terms of tracking them, surveilling them, monitoring their thoughts and their expressions. that's a fact. that's a reality of being a united states person or citizen. so there is this aspect of home-grown terrorism that has to be confronted. how you try to protect the country against it. as well as the nature of this kind of attack. a small bore, a terror attack with far fewer...
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to you know anything about who tamerlan met with? his involvement with extremists when he was in russia for the six months last year? >> i do not. >> chris: what set the brothers off on their final rampage on thursday night? had you identified them 10:00 thursday night? were you closing in on them? or were they just trying to go out in a final burst of violence? >> we were not closing in on them at that particular time. i think they decided to go active after the pictures were disclosed publicly. tragically, people were murdered as they started a rampage. i want to say on officer collier, i believe he was attacked and and his murder led to the enap rehens of the individuals. the individuals were out to kill other people. i think we force a hand by putting the pictures out there. officer collier is a hero. >> chris: absolutely. were they planning andp trying to escape or kill as many people as they could? and they figured it would end with their death? >> i only know what transpired after the release of the photos. people can draw a c
to you know anything about who tamerlan met with? his involvement with extremists when he was in russia for the six months last year? >> i do not. >> chris: what set the brothers off on their final rampage on thursday night? had you identified them 10:00 thursday night? were you closing in on them? or were they just trying to go out in a final burst of violence? >> we were not closing in on them at that particular time. i think they decided to go active after the pictures were...
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do you have reason to believe the older brother, tamerlan, was the leader in this and that dzhokhar may have been the follower? can you hear me, commissioner? we have lost the commissioner temporarily. while we try to re-establish that connection, we're going to continue our conversation, and with so many questions still unanswered, we'll come back to the commissioner when we can. so many questions still unanswered about the terror plot and how to protect our homeland, we've invited two congressional leaders on national security to discuss what happens now. dianne feinstein is chair of the senate intelligence committee, congressman pete king is chair of the house committee on counterterrorism, and he joins us live from new york. i'm sorry. i've got him in my ear. senator, congressman, hold on. we're going to go back to the police commissioner. do you have a sense whether the older brother tamerlan was the leader in this, and dzhokhar somehow followed him into the conspiracy? >> any information along those lines is based upon conjecture at this point in time. i don't know definitively wh
do you have reason to believe the older brother, tamerlan, was the leader in this and that dzhokhar may have been the follower? can you hear me, commissioner? we have lost the commissioner temporarily. while we try to re-establish that connection, we're going to continue our conversation, and with so many questions still unanswered, we'll come back to the commissioner when we can. so many questions still unanswered about the terror plot and how to protect our homeland, we've invited two...
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tamerlan born in kyrgystan, comes in 2002. he becomes a u.s. citizen, 9/11/2012. he was a wrestler, enrolled at the university of massachusetts-dartmouth. so many friends talking so positively about him. tamerlan, his older brother, does that travel. he comes later than his younger brother. he was mayrried, had a 3-year-od daughter. had a domestic violence incident. he dropped out of community colle college. he was a competitive boxer. people speaking very positively about him. but, chairman mike rogers, now we have more information about some evidence of him sort of dropping out of society, as it were, information after he comes back from foreign travel, postings on his youtube account and other social media indicating that he had exposure to jihadist elements whether that's connect canned to chechnya and the struggles there or otherwise. what do you know this morning and what do you want to know? >> it's important to understand why, in fact, the fbi interviewed him in the first place. so they had information from a foreign intelligence service that they were con
tamerlan born in kyrgystan, comes in 2002. he becomes a u.s. citizen, 9/11/2012. he was a wrestler, enrolled at the university of massachusetts-dartmouth. so many friends talking so positively about him. tamerlan, his older brother, does that travel. he comes later than his younger brother. he was mayrried, had a 3-year-od daughter. had a domestic violence incident. he dropped out of community colle college. he was a competitive boxer. people speaking very positively about him. but, chairman...
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. >> reporter: police launched a massive manhunt late thursday -- chasing dzhokar and his brother tamerlan tsarnaev -- who later died in a shootout with police. saturday, the suspect's uncle urged his nephew be honest and tell authorites everything >> i'm relieved that he's alive first of all that there's now a chance to find out who was behind it. second of all i stress that there is a chance for dzhokar to seek forgiveness. >> reporter: on saturday governor deval patrick spoke to reporters saying tsarnaev is not yet able to communicate -- but hopes the young man will soon be able to answer the question of why >> i and i think all the law enforcement professionals are hoping for a host of reasons that the suspect survives because we have a million questions. those questions need to be answered. a justice dept source says dzhokar will will face federal terrorism charges and may also face state murder charges -- adding that he could be charged before he leaves the hospital. in boston i'm stacey cohan reporting. >> federal agents confirm that the f-b-i interviewed the older brother, tamerlan
. >> reporter: police launched a massive manhunt late thursday -- chasing dzhokar and his brother tamerlan tsarnaev -- who later died in a shootout with police. saturday, the suspect's uncle urged his nephew be honest and tell authorites everything >> i'm relieved that he's alive first of all that there's now a chance to find out who was behind it. second of all i stress that there is a chance for dzhokar to seek forgiveness. >> reporter: on saturday governor deval patrick...
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tamerlan spent six months in russia last year. top cops want to know if the attacks are tied to islam eck terror training camps. item, may 2012, u.s. jurors hear that express ives experts found a pressure cooker containing smokeless gun powder in the texas motel room of a soldier planning to blow up fort hood military troops. item, may 2010 one of three devices used in the times square bombing was a pressure cook. >>> getting to and from the villages is dangerous for the military and the roads are often lined with ieds. >> on patrol in afghanistan, i saw items sold right outside their base used to attack soldiers. >> many times the ieds used against the military are made with crude devices. a pressure cookers and fertilizers and a lot of times you can see that the pressure cooker is being sold right in the market right next to the fertilizer store. >> the 506 lost two soldiers when taliban fighters set their deadly sights as they exited the vehicle. >> was it your impression they were going to use that for another massive bombing?
tamerlan spent six months in russia last year. top cops want to know if the attacks are tied to islam eck terror training camps. item, may 2012, u.s. jurors hear that express ives experts found a pressure cooker containing smokeless gun powder in the texas motel room of a soldier planning to blow up fort hood military troops. item, may 2010 one of three devices used in the times square bombing was a pressure cook. >>> getting to and from the villages is dangerous for the military and...
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tamerlan spent six months in russia last year. top cops want to know if the attacks are tied to islam eck terror training camps. item, may 2012, u.s. jurors hear that express ives experts found a pressure cooker containing smokeless gun powder in the texas motel room of a soldier planning to blow up fort hood military troops. item, may 2010 one of three devices used in the times square bombing was a pressure cook. >>> getting to and from the villages is dangerous for the military and the roads are often lined with ieds. >> on patrol in afghanistan, i saw items sold right outside their base used to attack soldiers. >> many times the ieds used against the military are made with crude devices. a pressure cookers and fertilizers and a lot of times you can see that the pressure cooker is being sold right in the market right next to the fertilizer store. >> the 506 lost two soldiers when taliban fighters set their deadly sights as they exited the vehicle. >> was it your impression they were going to use that for another massive bombing?
tamerlan spent six months in russia last year. top cops want to know if the attacks are tied to islam eck terror training camps. item, may 2012, u.s. jurors hear that express ives experts found a pressure cooker containing smokeless gun powder in the texas motel room of a soldier planning to blow up fort hood military troops. item, may 2010 one of three devices used in the times square bombing was a pressure cook. >>> getting to and from the villages is dangerous for the military and...
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tamerlan spent six months in russia last year. top cops want to know if the attacks are tied to islam eck terror training camps. item, may 2012, u.s. jurors hear that express ives experts found a pressure cooker containing smokeless gun powder in the texas motel room of a soldier planning to blow up fort hood military troops. item, may 2010 one of three devices used in the times square bombing was a pressure cook. >>> getting to and from the villages is dangerous for the military and the roads are often lined with ieds. >> on patrol in afghanistan, i saw items sold right outside their base used to attack soldiers. >> many times the ieds used against the military are made with crude devices. a pressure cookers and fertilizers and a lot of times you can see that the pressure cooker is being sold right in the market right next to the fertilizer store. >> the 506 lost two soldiers when taliban fighters set their deadly sights as they exited the vehicle. >> was it your impression they were going to use that for another massive bombing?
tamerlan spent six months in russia last year. top cops want to know if the attacks are tied to islam eck terror training camps. item, may 2012, u.s. jurors hear that express ives experts found a pressure cooker containing smokeless gun powder in the texas motel room of a soldier planning to blow up fort hood military troops. item, may 2010 one of three devices used in the times square bombing was a pressure cook. >>> getting to and from the villages is dangerous for the military and...
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says it interviewed tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 after being told by a foreign government, reportedly russia, he had become a follower of riradical islam. they found no evidence of terrorist activity at that time. did the chech anyian brothers act alone or was it a broughter plan with coconspiracies in the u.s. or overseas? wayne simmons, a former c.i.a. analyst and joins us now with some insight. thank you for coming in today. >> always a pleasure. >> i want to ask you about this. the way that the bombs they use have had been described, you know, many law enforcement sources said they were too sophisticated for somebody who was going to google and throw something together that the brothers had to have training at some point. for what they are accused of doing. what do you make of that? >> all of us, first of all, those agree that nothing today is 100% certain. that is where we need to start. if i had to make a guess, i would remind guys like me that 12 years ago, 13 years ago the chechens were in afghanistan trying to build the same kind of bombs, using propane tanks. and they were blowing
says it interviewed tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 after being told by a foreign government, reportedly russia, he had become a follower of riradical islam. they found no evidence of terrorist activity at that time. did the chech anyian brothers act alone or was it a broughter plan with coconspiracies in the u.s. or overseas? wayne simmons, a former c.i.a. analyst and joins us now with some insight. thank you for coming in today. >> always a pleasure. >> i want to ask you about this. the...
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his brother, tamerlan tsarnaev, died after a firefight with police friday morning. he was worn in russia and became a legal resident in 2007. the prayer -- the brothers are believed to have entered the country 10 years ago. the associated press spoke to the father. he said i son is an angel. he said he is an intelligent boy. confirms the worst fears of those responsible for national security. there are enemies among us. >> i agree. a moreard to imagine more american place to hit in this vicious and cowardly act. i think the political implications of it are immediate. there will be a great resistance to immigration reform. i think it is a blow there. beyond that, it is a reminder that since september 11, there has not been a terrorist attack in this country organized from abroad by foreign nationals. this may be a break. >> all right. we have a long way to go on what the motivation was and whether there is an international connection. we are getting better at solving these things. unfortunately, this is a case of not preventing them. in a democratic society, you can'
his brother, tamerlan tsarnaev, died after a firefight with police friday morning. he was worn in russia and became a legal resident in 2007. the prayer -- the brothers are believed to have entered the country 10 years ago. the associated press spoke to the father. he said i son is an angel. he said he is an intelligent boy. confirms the worst fears of those responsible for national security. there are enemies among us. >> i agree. a moreard to imagine more american place to hit in this...
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. >> investigators are still looking into the background of the older brother, tamerlan, and his possible links to militant islamists. whether the brothers received operational plans from a militant group in the chechnya area. we'll have more on that coming up at 7:35. now for more on the boston bombings, you can go to our website where we have a special section on details. go to ktvu.com for our continuing coverage online. plus, later in this newscast. infrared images of dzhokhar is coming up at 7:31. how these black and white pictures kept police safe. >>> as the bombing suspect lies in a hospital bed. a legal debate is brewing over the charges they should file against him. katie is live to explain what those charges may be. >> as you mentioned, justice department officials told cnn dzhokhar tsarnaev is facing federal terrorism charges and state murder charges. preliminary hearing could happen in the next 30 days. a lot hinges on when the suspect is well enough to speak. investigators are eager for him to talk so they can find out who planned the attack. tsarnaev will likely be appointe
. >> investigators are still looking into the background of the older brother, tamerlan, and his possible links to militant islamists. whether the brothers received operational plans from a militant group in the chechnya area. we'll have more on that coming up at 7:35. now for more on the boston bombings, you can go to our website where we have a special section on details. go to ktvu.com for our continuing coverage online. plus, later in this newscast. infrared images of dzhokhar is...
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. >> lots of questions that tamerlan, the older brother, had been questioned before by the fbi, in 2011, at the request of the russian government. >> well, that's right. but, think about this, george, there are hundreds of thousands of young adults in this country that visit extremist islamic websites, he was one of them, so the question is, what line do you draw that we continue the investigation? or do we go and interview, make a decision on other intelligence that were not going to pursue an active case against him? >> you're already seeing some congressmen, peter king, criticizing, saying this was a missed opportunity. >> that's great to say. but when you have literally hundreds of thousands of people you want to keep track of, you want to prioritize. they're going to miss one every once in a while. when you approach them, when you interview them or do their background, they may not have radicalized to the level of what we saw on monday. >> going to websites wouldn't be enough? >> absolutely not. >> the older brother went back to russia in 2012, was there for several months. we know
. >> lots of questions that tamerlan, the older brother, had been questioned before by the fbi, in 2011, at the request of the russian government. >> well, that's right. but, think about this, george, there are hundreds of thousands of young adults in this country that visit extremist islamic websites, he was one of them, so the question is, what line do you draw that we continue the investigation? or do we go and interview, make a decision on other intelligence that were not going...
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the chairman of the house intelligence community says the bomber that was killed, tamerlan tsarnaev may have been radicalized by islamic extremists when he went to russia last year. rebels deny any link to the bombings. >>> now to west texas, where residents are beginning to pick up the pieces. they are returning home for the first time since the massive fertilizer plant explosion levelled parts of their small town. wednesday's blast destroyed buildings and took the lives of 14 people. 200 people were injured. >>> in china, rescue workers are searching for at least two dozen people still missing after saturday's devastating earthquake. the death toll is at 186, more than 11,000 people were injured. the u.s. geological survey puts the magnitude at 6.6. it was so strong it sheered off huge chunks of ground in the mountains making rescue work difficult. >>> in colorado, five snow boarders are dead in an avalanche in white river national forest according to the colorado avalanche information center. avalanches have killed 24 people this season. >>> floodwaters are receding in parts of illin
the chairman of the house intelligence community says the bomber that was killed, tamerlan tsarnaev may have been radicalized by islamic extremists when he went to russia last year. rebels deny any link to the bombings. >>> now to west texas, where residents are beginning to pick up the pieces. they are returning home for the first time since the massive fertilizer plant explosion levelled parts of their small town. wednesday's blast destroyed buildings and took the lives of 14 people....
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the chairman of the house intelligence committee says the suspected bomber who was killed tamerlan tsarnaev may have become radicalized by islamic extremi extremists when he went to russia last year. let's go to west, texas, now where residents are beginning to pick up the pieces. they are returning home for the first time since the explosion levelled parts of their small town. wednesday's blast destroyed buildings and took the lives of 14 people and 200 people were injured. >>> in china, rescue workers are searching for at least two dozen people who are still missing after saturday's devastating earthquake. the death toll now stands at 181. more than 11,000 people are injured. now the u.s. geological survey put the earthquake's magnitude at 6.6. look at how it's shaking there. it was so strong it sheared off huge chunks of mown tauntains i region. you can see the panic that it caused. fareed sa car ya cons for you right now. >>> around the world more than 140 people have been reported killed in terror-related attacks since last sunday. and many hundreds more wounded. in iraq alone, at leas
the chairman of the house intelligence committee says the suspected bomber who was killed tamerlan tsarnaev may have become radicalized by islamic extremi extremists when he went to russia last year. let's go to west, texas, now where residents are beginning to pick up the pieces. they are returning home for the first time since the explosion levelled parts of their small town. wednesday's blast destroyed buildings and took the lives of 14 people and 200 people were injured. >>> in...
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unprecedented set of events that ended with a surprisingly subdued ending on friday night. 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev was pronounced dead after a dramatic shootout with law enforcement early friday morning. his 19-year-old dzhokhar escaped on foot precipitating a shelter in place order for the entire boston area. but the much sought after armed and dangerous teen was found wounded and incoherent in a boat parked in the backyard of a suburban watertown home. discovered not by the hundreds of armed officers who had been searching for him for hours but by the home's owner, reportedly out for a smoke. with one assailant dead and the other in police custody, the people of watertown and the entire boston area expressed their enormous gratitude and sense of relief with spontaneous cheers and applause on friday night. the crisis is over. now the politics begin and this is where our responsibility in the media shifts. in the heat of the crisis, media take on the job of informational clearinghouse, keeping the public up to date, sharing critical information and get the information out right and fast.
unprecedented set of events that ended with a surprisingly subdued ending on friday night. 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev was pronounced dead after a dramatic shootout with law enforcement early friday morning. his 19-year-old dzhokhar escaped on foot precipitating a shelter in place order for the entire boston area. but the much sought after armed and dangerous teen was found wounded and incoherent in a boat parked in the backyard of a suburban watertown home. discovered not by the hundreds of...
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but tamerlan was not nice. she met him twice and thought he was nastier. but the younger boy, who everybody thinks was the follower, this is the older son, tamerlan she did not like him. he said, "i don't any american friends. i don't understand them." the younger boy that people think is a follower, she thought was nice and kind. >> tucker: talked about the extremism and radical underpinnings of the family. you could tell that the mom was influenced by the older son, the 26-year-old. talk about the 9/11 conspiracy. she says this. this is what alyssa says in her opinion piece for foxnews.com. she writes this shouldn't surprised me because she was increasingly religious in college. and she mentioned allah and lesson of the quran. she was telling me that 9/11 was created by the american government to make america hate muslims. it's real, she said michigan son knows all about it and you can read it on the internet. >> surprisingly. she said at one point it's okay, you can use the bathroom. there are no men in the house. what is striking, the longer they live
but tamerlan was not nice. she met him twice and thought he was nastier. but the younger boy, who everybody thinks was the follower, this is the older son, tamerlan she did not like him. he said, "i don't any american friends. i don't understand them." the younger boy that people think is a follower, she thought was nice and kind. >> tucker: talked about the extremism and radical underpinnings of the family. you could tell that the mom was influenced by the older son, the...